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braveheart3
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 Posted - 26/01/2003 : 10:39:39
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Not much happening here how about we share some of our own patterns. New or proven it doesn’t matter as long as it’s your own.
Here’s a couple to get started……..
BUITTLE PIG PEN-Stillwater
HOOK- 12/14
SILK- black
TAIL- tippets (GP)
RIB- silver wire
BODY- black PT fibres
WING BUDS- Amherst pheasant tippets
THORAX- black and red S/F mix
THORAX COVER- black PT
I’ve had a lot of success on this fly fished dead drift with an occasional tweak, and a hot spot pt or buzzer on the Dropper
RIVER BUG
Hook-Kamasan B160 14/16
BEAD-Gold
BODY- cream wool
HACKLE-brown partridge (tie in and wind on before thorax)
THORAX- brown wool
After tying give it a good rough up with Velcro
A quick and easy pattern to tie and fished upstream it can be deadly for Trout and Grayling.
There you are they’re mine what’s yours? 
"Work is for people who don't know how to fish"
braveheart
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jab
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Posted - 27/01/2003 : 07:07:29
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A couple of very simple ones for spring, though they catch fish at any time:
Black Spider (Baillie)
Hook: 12 to as small as you like.
Tying thread: Pearsalls Gossamer brown waxed with clear or dark wax depending on the shade you want. Ordinary dark brown 8/0 or 12/0 thread can be used without harming efficiency here (unlike some other traditional flies).
Body: Tying thread dressed short - no further back than the hook point.
Hackle: 1 / 2 Starling neck either dressed at the shoulder for a point fly or "half-palmered" for a top dropper / surface pattern. You can use black hen, preferably natural black, as a subsititute for the Starling.
Greenbottle Spider (Sometimes called the Green Priest):
Hook: 12 - 16 standard wet-fly.
Tying Thread: Black, shoulder only.
Body: Green Lurex wound over varnished hook shank. Same length as the Black Spider. (Blue and Silver variants are often used, but the green is the best I think).
Hackle: Black hen.
[A red variant is sometimes useful as well]
These two very simple flies will catch fish anywhere and almost any time.
James Bannon
(When in doubt, try honesty)
Edited by - jab on 27/01/2003 08:01:30 |
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wretched_mess
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Posted - 28/01/2003 : 16:16:16
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Top Cat (a faithful Cats Whisker Variant)
Hook: size 10 wet fly
Thread: Fluro Red Danvilles 6/0
Underbody: Medium Square Lead
Tail: A pinch of White Marabou
Body: Med. Char. Fl. Cyrstal Chenile
Wing: White Marabou
Overwing: Tiewell UV Artic Pearl
Substitute the white Marabou for a black version.
Everybody should have secret or special fly they can tie on when things are tough. This is mine.
The Cats out of the bag now....
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braveheart3
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Posted - 29/01/2003 : 09:47:49
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That’s an interesting Cat there WM, When I used to fish lures one of my favourites was a Cat variant……….
Hook-12/14 standard shank (kamasan b175)
Body- wound chartreuse marabou
Wing- white marabou
Head- wound red marabou
Eyes- very small bead chain
A very easy fly to tie but a very good catcher.
"Work is for people who don't know how to fish"
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braveheart3
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Posted - 31/01/2003 : 08:39:42
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Bit slow here, surely there are more of you out there who would be willing to share.
What about Fluke, Wantwetwitch and Andy Wren, and I bet there are a lot more.
Don’t be shy or secretive lets all share I’m sure lots of us would be interested to hear what is being developed.
Here’s another one for you to try…
G.R.H.E Variant
Hook,Tail,Body and rib as standard Hares ear.
Thorax- Gold lite-brite
I know this one has probably been “invented” by a thousand tiers but I tied it first????
It’s in keeping with my philosophy of making flies as simple as possible, but like all simple flies it can be deadly.
"Work is for people who don't know how to fish"
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rabbitangler
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Posted - 31/01/2003 : 13:46:07
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Ok here goes
'Gunmetal Buzzer'
Hook B110 - size to your preference, I've caught on 10-16's
Thread Black
Body Lureflash 'Gunmetal' Flasabou
Thorax Black thread - built up slightly
Wing buds Fl orange Floss
After tying coat with superglue and/or 'Hard as nails'
Deadly fished dead drift across wind. Also caught using it as a stalking pattern.
Also try a spider pattern with the flashabou as a body and a small sparse (like 2 turns max) black hackle, in sizes 12 - 16. I haven't tried this on rivers but it works well on my local stillwaters as well as on wild brownies.
Another 'Stoater' (as we say in Scotland) is Bob Wyatts deer hair sedge
Body mix of 60%/40%
Wing Deer hair (a la Elk hair sedge)
tied on a size 10 B170 hook it was absolutely deadly for wild brownies in Assynt last July. It caught fish in all conditions, even beating artificial mayfly patterns on fish feeding on the naturals!
Regards
Peter
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rabbitangler
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Posted - 31/01/2003 : 13:49:05
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OOPS SORRY
the sedge has 60/40 black and claret seal or substitute dubbed body.
Peter
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braveheart3
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 Posted - 31/01/2003 : 16:36:05
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Thanks for those Peter, i particularly like your "gunmetal" buzzer, think i'll try some.
where abouts in Scotland are you, i'm from the south, Dalbeattie which is near Dumfries.
going back up at the end of the month for a week.
"Work is for people who don't know how to fish"
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ali gow
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Posted - 31/01/2003 : 20:58:31
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[quote]Originally posted by braveheart3:
G.R.H.E Variant
Hook,Tail,Body and rib as standard Hares ear.
Thorax- Gold lite-brite
I know this one has probably been “invented” by a thousand tiers but I tied it first????
It’s in keeping with my philosophy of making flies as simple as possible, but like all simple flies it can be deadly.
Re your GRHE variant "almost as good as mine" - I use standard tying but mix in short cut strands of gold light bright in the dubbing. Additonally I prefer a Black thorax case either 5/6 strands black cock pheasant centre or blackfloss doubled sufficiently
Above for summer fishing + variant with a gold 3mm bead
For winter grayling a 3mm and a 5mm bead + a winding of thin lead wire on the body
My other nymph that works well is as follows - no other name
Hook Kamasan B110-or B200 or any heavy buzzer Thread black
Tail Goose biots -Black ,Red, Yellow or COCK PHEASANT centre tail 3/4 strands - dyed black; rib silver wire, Body COCK PHEASANT centre tail 5/6 strands - dyed black ; Thorax
as tail or cover with a layer of silver red or gold holographic tinsel dependent on the colour of the biots used in tail.Thorax
cover - as body
also as above + single or double silver bead
Cheers Ali Gow
I'd rather be fishing
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braveheart3
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Posted - 01/02/2003 : 08:57:16
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cheers A G, this thread is starting to get better........... now where is every one else???
"Work is for people who don't know how to fish"
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rabbitangler
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Posted - 01/02/2003 : 15:40:33
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Living in Montrose & have for 12 years.
I work with a guy who lived down Dumfries way until recently, doesn't fish though.
Origionaly I'm from Glasgow/East Kilbride area, hence a liking for clyde style flies and fond memories of the clyde, avon etc where these flies work better than most (and on other rivers/lochs too!)
Theres some excellent stillwaters in this area and Salmon rivers on my doorstep though I very rarely fish for the buggers. Still it's nice to know there are still one or two making it upstream.
Where are you casting a line??
tight lines
Peter
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braveheart3
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Posted - 01/02/2003 : 16:59:53
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Hi Peter,
Most of fishing is done on the Test at the moment, but I’ve also fished the Avon and the Itchen and my favourite water the Dever.
No salmon fishing down here though, not affordable anyway.
When I go home at the end of the month I will probably have a couple of days on Broom farm, a small fishery near Annan, and I usually try to get a couple of weeks in September/October on what was my local river the Urr.
"Work is for people who don't know how to fish"
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ali gow
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Posted - 02/02/2003 : 19:14:19
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[quote]Originally posted by rabbitangler:
Ok here goes
'Gunmetal Buzzer'
Hi Pete I was looking again at your Gunmetal buzzer and it is very similar to a buzzer that I used last year- catching 32 trout in 4 visits: - I identified the Buzzers on Wednesday by spooning - tied 6 for an evening session Thurs caught 5 to 2lbs in 2 hrs. Fri evening (3hrs ) had 9 to 3 1/2 lbs. Sat (8hrs) 10 fish to 4lbs . Sunday (3hrs ) - 8 fish to 2 1/2 lbs/. That was it I never got another touch with the buzzer.
Kamasan B110 black thread - thin layer for body gold tinsel rib,build up thorax with thread. Tie in fluoro orange wing buds and coated in varnish or hard as nails. 3mm gold bead optional.
I am looking forward to trying the deer hair sedge - Bob Wyatt's. I've fished Assynt for 20 years from the Inchnadamph Hotel and look forward to trying the sedge this year -although I have been mostly a dapper in recent years. This works exceptionally well at Assynt - try it if you get back up there
Cheers ALi G
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Allan Liddle
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Posted - 03/02/2003 : 18:44:37
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Hello there Ali, Pete
Have also fished a lot in the Assynt area especially around the Elphin end on the 'big 4' (Cama, Veyatie, Urigill and Borralan as Pete already knows) Favourite time is around late June through July early Aug for the Green Drake season with my top patterns
Veyatie Black (Wyatt)
Hook Drennan sproat 8,10(although smaller 12, 14 b 400 is good at other times as a Kate McLaren type fly)
Tail GP crest, body black and claret seals fur (sub)mix 60/40, rib oval tinsel, hacle nat grizzle(palmered), head hackle red game hen tied long. Great tail fly ginked and fished static or pulled. (Wyatt dosen't like my head hackle his is GP rump i think so if he sees this he's bound to have a bloody moan about it) It's also a good Dapping pattern and has scored heavily for me when i can be bothered (sorry Ali) to put up the big rod. Sorry i'd still rather fish dries.
Next is my Green Drake hook Drennan sproat 8,10 tail bunch pheasent tail fibres, body medium olive rabbit(tartan dubbing scotia complete Magnus Angus), rib bright green tinsel overlaid with fine florocarbon for strength hackle med olive grizzle tied 1/3 down body then med olive mallard at head. Great fished as Veyatie Black, ginked and across wind count to 30 then take 3 steps. (When they're hard on the mays see if you can get past 10)
DH Emerger (Bloody Wyatt again. Christ if he sees this i'll never hear the end of it)
hook Kam b100 8, 10 For mays but 12 down at other times, body anything you like but i tend to use rabbit (tartan dubb again) whatever colour you fancy but for mays best med olive, black/claret 60/40 (or sometimes just use nat seals fur) wing tied forward deer hair (or elk) either nat or insect green for a closer coloured nat with seals fur body thorax (tied in front of wing right Bob!) as body. A must have fly in any dry mans box and will kill everywhere. I use the olive or black bodies right through the season on both river and loch right down to size 18. Deadly. Where did you first get this from Bob?
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Allan Liddle
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Posted - 03/02/2003 : 18:45:41
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Hello there Ali, Pete
Have also fished a lot in the Assynt area especially around the Elphin end on the 'big 4' (Cama, Veyatie, Urigill and Borralan as Pete already knows) Favourite time is around late June through July early Aug for the Green Drake season with my top patterns
Veyatie Black (Wyatt)
Hook Drennan sproat 8,10(although smaller 12, 14 b 400 is good at other times as a Kate McLaren type fly)
Tail GP crest, body black and claret seals fur (sub)mix 60/40, rib oval tinsel, hacle nat grizzle(palmered), head hackle red game hen tied long. Great tail fly ginked and fished static or pulled. (Wyatt dosen't like my head hackle his is GP rump i think so if he sees this he's bound to have a bloody moan about it) It's also a good Dapping pattern and has scored heavily for me when i can be bothered (sorry Ali) to put up the big rod. Sorry i'd still rather fish dries.
Next is my Green Drake hook Drennan sproat 8,10 tail bunch pheasent tail fibres, body medium olive rabbit(tartan dubbing scotia complete Magnus Angus), rib bright green tinsel overlaid with fine florocarbon for strength hackle med olive grizzle tied 1/3 down body then med olive mallard at head. Great fished as Veyatie Black, ginked and across wind count to 30 then take 3 steps. (When they're hard on the mays see if you can get past 10)
DH Emerger (Bloody Wyatt again. Christ if he sees this i'll never hear the end of it)
hook Kam b100 8, 10 For mays but 12 down at other times, body anything you like but i tend to use rabbit (tartan dubb again) whatever colour you fancy but for mays best med olive, black/claret 60/40 (or sometimes just use nat seals fur) wing tied forward deer hair (or elk) either nat or insect green for a closer coloured nat with seals fur body thorax (tied in front of wing right Bob!) as body. A must have fly in any dry mans box and will kill everywhere. I use the olive or black bodies right through the season on both river and loch right down to size 18. Deadly. Where did you first get this from Bob?
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Allan Liddle
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Posted - 03/02/2003 : 18:49:49
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Sorry boys never mean this to go twice!
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