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Wacker07plunkett
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Posted - 04/10/2002 :  10:36:16  Show Profile Send Wacker07plunkett a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've been fishing Lough Corrib for number of years during the Mayfly Hatch.
Depending on the weather conditions (which vary considerably) I switch between dries & wets.(occasionally dapping)
My preference is the Dry-Fly.
I have tried & tested a number of traditional / modern dry fly patterns and so far my best success has been to a Paradrake pattern.
This has performed better for me than the following;
Mohican Mayfly
Roll Over Mayfly
Klinkmhammer
Gray Wolf

My faith is on realistic patterns and I would be very interested if anyone has had success using a realistic dun pattern.
(I am referring on the Dun stage)

Wacker07plunkett

Stephen Ryan

Fluke
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Posted - 04/10/2002 :  10:45:54  Show Profile  Visit Fluke's Homepage  Send Fluke an ICQ Message  Send Fluke a Yahoo! Message Send Fluke a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.danica.com/flytier/abithell/mohican_may.htm

By far the most realistic looking mayfly pattern I've seen for profile and proportion... definitely not the same pattern as tied by Oliver Edwards.

Hope that helps,

Fluke!
"Don't take life too seriously... it ain't permanent!" Attribute to Joe Pearlstein.
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Flytier
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Posted - 04/10/2002 :  16:52:39  Show Profile  Visit Flytier's Homepage Send Flytier a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Stephen,

Personally I am very firmly entrenched in the impressionistic camp, but that does not prevent me from photographing more realistic offerings from contributors to my page.

I have not fished the below fly, and likely never will, but it may fit your query:

http://www.danica.com/flytier/walphenaar/mayfly_emerger_ls.htm

Cheers,
Hans W

PS Fluke, I agree that Alan Bithell's Mohican May is quite an interesting critter. Thanks for referencing my wee page ;-)


===== You have a friend in Low Places ===
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Browntrout
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Posted - 07/10/2002 :  08:37:27  Show Profile Send Browntrout a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi

My fav mayfly pattern is the mohican aswell altough from the photo fluke provided the one i know of is slightly different, as the photo displays a vey small hackle for the size of fly, i cant see that sitting on the water as a riding dun, more like falling on to one side.

Also the one i tie has a deer hair wing which seems to help it stay afloat. Ive had some good success with this patterns on the streams i fish in southern england.

http://www.essential-skills.tv/images/gallery/v_05_MayFly/fly_on_vice.jpg

this fly was tyed by oliver edwards on one of his video's



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wretched_mess
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Posted - 07/10/2002 :  14:17:45  Show Profile Send wretched_mess a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You fellas should check out the summer 2002 edition of Fly Tyer.

Oliver did a fantastic article on Mayflies with the latest version of his Mohican May. He know ties this on sweedish dryfly hooks upside-down like, and says the tying is now much more easier.

It really is a super article. I hope he repeats it for FF&FT!!



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wretched_mess
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Posted - 07/10/2002 :  14:22:29  Show Profile Send wretched_mess a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wretched_mess:

You fellas should check out the summer 2002 edition of Fly Tyer.

Oliver did a fantastic article on Mayflies with the latest version of his Mohican May. He now ties this on sweedish dryfly hooks upside-down like, and says the tying is now much more easier.

It really is a super article. I hope he repeats it for FF&FT!!






Sorry for the double post but this stoopid board would not let me edit my previous post (to correct spelling). It keeps throwing me out everytime I login !! Arrrgh

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Wacker07plunkett
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Posted - 14/10/2002 :  09:06:13  Show Profile Send Wacker07plunkett a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wretched_mess:

You fellas should check out the summer 2002 edition of Fly Tyer.

Oliver did a fantastic article on Mayflies with the latest version of his Mohican May. He know ties this on sweedish dryfly hooks upside-down like, and says the tying is now much more easier.

It really is a super article. I hope he repeats it for FF&FT!!




Is is possible to purchase back issues of this magazine?
Is there a web site ?

Wacker07Plunkett


Stephen Ryan
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wretched_mess
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Posted - 28/10/2002 :  14:29:19  Show Profile Send wretched_mess a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wacker07plunkett:

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Is is possible to purchase back issues of this magazine?
Is there a web site ?

Wacker07Plunkett


Stephen Ryan[/quote]

Sorry for the delay in respondig Stephen.

Yes you can get back issues and there is a web site.... here is the url:
http://www.flyfishingmagazines.com/magazine_ft.shtml

I can't see the summer issue there at the moment so perhaps you could make use of their BB
http://forums.flyfishingmagazines.com/cgi-bin/bb/ultimatebb.cgi

It's well worth the hassle of getting a copy if you want to tie a better Mayfly - the article is stunning!

Perhaps if we pestered the editor enough he could persuade Oliver to do a similar style article in our favourite flyfishing magazine!

Gaius

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Sandison
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Posted - 18/11/2002 :  20:05:21  Show Profile Send Sandison a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think that Oliver Edwards is just about the tops in fly-tying.


Bruce Sandison
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Browntrout
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Posted - 12/12/2002 :  07:33:56  Show Profile Send Browntrout a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sandison:

I think that Oliver Edwards is just about the tops in fly-tying.


Bruce Sandison




Could'nt agree with you more bruce, I use most fo his patterns on the south english stream and they are quite unbeatable.


Browntrout


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Wacker07plunkett
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Posted - 13/12/2002 :  04:21:21  Show Profile Send Wacker07plunkett a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi,

I just reveived the summer edition of Fly Tyer in the post. I couldn't agree more! These selection of Mayflies are fantastic.

What I like most about these flies are the bouyancy and durability features along with the realism . (2 essential features when fishing Corrib , Mask etc.)

I personally have a preference for 'Tube Bodiz' extended bodies so I will experiment this year with these flies modified with these extended bodiz. Unfortunately I have yet to perfect tying the Foam tied extended body . Practice makes perfect. Roll on Maytime!!!

Wacker07Plunkett
[ [/quote] Is is possible to purchase back issues of this magazine?
Is there a web site ?

Wacker07Plunkett


Stephen Ryan[/quote]

Sorry for the delay in respondig Stephen.

Yes you can get back issues and there is a web site.... here is the url:
http://www.flyfishingmagazines.com/magazine_ft.shtml

I can't see the summer issue there at the moment so perhaps you could make use of their BB
http://forums.flyfishingmagazines.com/cgi-bin/bb/ultimatebb.cgi

It's well worth the hassle of getting a copy if you want to tie a better Mayfly - the article is stunning!

Perhaps if we pestered the editor enough he could persuade Oliver to do a similar style article in our favourite flyfishing magazine!

Gaius

[/quote]


Stephen Ryan
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wretched_mess
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Posted - 13/12/2002 :  12:23:46  Show Profile Send wretched_mess a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Wacker07plunkett[/b]:

Hi,

I just reveived the summer edition of Fly Tyer in the post. I couldn't agree more! These selection of Mayflies are fantastic.

What I like most about these flies are the bouyancy and durability features along with the realism . (2 essential features when fishing Corrib , Mask etc.)

I personally have a preference for 'Tube Bodiz' extended bodies so I will experiment this year with these flies modified with these extended bodiz. Unfortunately I have yet to perfect tying the Foam tied extended body . Practice makes perfect. Roll on Maytime!!!

Wacker07Plunkett

Glad you managed to get a copy. I hope Oliver comes up with a new book with some of the updates he's made to his patterns. Masterclass is 8 years old now.



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Wacker07plunkett
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Posted - 10/02/2003 :  11:01:15  Show Profile Send Wacker07plunkett a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Folks,


Trying to tie a few of Oliver Edwards Mayfly patterns.However I need the following materials.
Wing: White deer hair (yellow olive , medium olive, pale yellow)
Hackle: Grizzly yellow

iI have no experiance on Dyeing materials , Any advise?

Wacker07Plunkett

Stephen Ryan
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wretched_mess
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Posted - 10/02/2003 :  13:03:45  Show Profile Send wretched_mess a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wacker07plunkett:

Hi Folks,


Trying to tie a few of Oliver Edwards Mayfly patterns.However I need the following materials.
Wing: White deer hair (yellow olive , medium olive, pale yellow)
Hackle: Grizzly yellow

iI have no experiance on Dyeing materials , Any advise?

Wacker07Plunkett

Stephen Ryan


Stephen, do you have Olivers Masterclass? He goes into the hackle a bit in the text. From memory he prefers a Blue Dun and/or a grizzly dyed in picric acid.

If you dyed the deer hair in picric no doubt you would get the same results.

I have no experience in dyeing, and I know that getting a supply of picric might be tough (it;s considered an explosive in its solid state). I did see an ad in FF&FT for someone dying feathers in picric. I think there was a review too.

For possible sources of dyed deer hair then if none of the U.K. guys can help (niche, cookshill etc) then you could try the deer hair guru Chris Helm: Whitetail Fly-tying Supplies
Address: 7060 Whitetail Ct.
Toledo, OH 43617, USA
Phone: (419) 843-2106

I grabed that info off the web, so I don't know how correct it is.

Finally, why not write to Oliver himself c/o ff&ft??

p.s. His Videos are now available on DVD, and I do know that he ties a Mohican May in one of them, so he might mention about the colour of the hackles then.

p.p.s I came across an interesting pattern by Charles Jardine in a back issue of Trout & Salmon, the pontoon may, which was a danica body with a hot orange cock hackle. You could give that a whirl. Orange is supposed to be good during a mayfly hatch - but then again, having never fished one, what would I know??



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Wacker07plunkett
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Posted - 11/05/2003 :  15:35:20  Show Profile Send Wacker07plunkett a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wretched_mess:

quote:
Originally posted by wretched_mess:
Did you manage to tie these? i tied a few on K3A's and to my disappointment they sank!

Wacker

You fellas should check out the summer 2002 edition of Fly Tyer.

Oliver did a fantastic article on Mayflies with the latest version of his Mohican May. He now ties this on sweedish dryfly hooks upside-down like, and says the tying is now much more easier.

It really is a super article. I hope he repeats it for FF&FT!!






Sorry for the double post but this stoopid board would not let me edit my previous post (to correct spelling). It keeps throwing me out everytime I login !! Arrrgh





Stephen Ryan
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Andy.C.Wren
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Posted - 12/05/2003 :  14:09:56  Show Profile Send Andy.C.Wren a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you want anything dyed with picric ,Keith Fraser of Aberdeen does a superb Job and he can be found via his ads in our #1 flyfishing aand Tying magasine .
Hes a good source of many other materials ,and his dying is excellent ,before I had family home dying was viable ,now I wouldnt dare .So Keith does a fair bit for me I had a stunning Picric grizzle cape and his clarets are to die for .

A.C.W
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