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jim.lucas
Starting Member
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 Posted - 14/04/2009 : 10:02:33
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Magnus
I would like to thank you for running yet another fly tying league.
Jim Lucas
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Winterbourne
Starting Member
5 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2009 : 13:53:40
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Can I second that.
I cannot begin to imagine the effort that Magnus must put in to deal with, and mark all the flies.
Many Thanks
Geoff Ray
Winterbourne
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Martini Fisher
Junior Member
90 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2009 : 16:24:35
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Absolutely agree. Well done too to Fingers Candlish who will I believe not now have to buy anyone in his near family a LAW 
Heres to next years comp in whatever form it takes.
Cheers
KP
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Sjo
Starting Member
3 Posts |
Posted - 16/04/2009 : 15:04:34
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What's a fly tying league?
Sjo
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starlmagwonder
Junior Member
70 Posts |
Posted - 17/04/2009 : 03:09:33
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Well Done, to all enterants, and congtatulations to the winners. Here's hoping I get the time to enter next year, it been a long winter.
Steve. |
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Peter Kealey
Junior Member
66 Posts |
Posted - 18/04/2009 : 04:06:38
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Congratulations to Ron, Nick and Adam for winning their respective categories. Very well done indeed.
Just leaves me to wonder who is going to break Nick's thumb for next years competition. I am almost certain you will find a willing volunteer in the Candlish household !!!!
Regards Pete |
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N C CANDLISH
Junior Member
64 Posts |
Posted - 18/04/2009 : 15:47:00
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Pete,
Thanks for for your input, I can't begin to understand how somebody who has only met my wife once (and then only briefly) can make such an apposite comment ........... I can only assume that your ability to predict what is yet to occur must make your chosen profession an absolute breeze!!!
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paul clydesdale
Junior Member
57 Posts |
Posted - 19/04/2009 : 01:20:45
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Peter Johnson
Starting Member
7 Posts |
 Posted - 20/04/2009 : 09:20:52
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quote:
Originally posted by Peter Kealey
Congratulations to Ron, Nick and Adam for winning their respective categories. Very well done indeed.
Just leaves me to wonder who is going to break Nick's thumb for next years competition. I am almost certain you will find a willing volunteer in the Candlish household !!!!
Regards Pete
Hi Pete
I believe that a greatr big thanks is due for your excellent descriptions that got me from 70 odd in the first round to 30 in the last. Brilliant. Thanks a million - you made an old man very happy.
Thanks also to Magnus for running the whole event.
Peter Johnson
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huba1973
Junior Member
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Posted - 21/04/2009 : 06:51:13
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Thanks for Magnus for being an excellent judge,not an easy job I suppouse.Congratulations for those that have won ,also for everyone that enetred this year competitions.Can we expect sort of summary in the mag some times soon?Below my second round entry.
Best regards-Hubert from Poland(formerly London )
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donal
Starting Member
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Posted - 21/04/2009 : 07:05:21
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Pete would have to agree, congrats to all winners.
Many thanks to Magnus for taking the time to mark the flies.
Big thanks to yourself Pete ur detailed descriptions helped a lot, was 80 something at one stage finished 7th, not 2 bad for tyer with onlyone hand thanks again Pete.
Donal
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Originally posted by Peter Kealey
Congratulations to Ron, Nick and Adam for winning their respective categories. Very well done indeed.
Just leaves me to wonder who is going to break Nick's thumb for next years competition. I am almost certain you will find a willing volunteer in the Candlish household !!!!
Regards Pete
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N C CANDLISH
Junior Member
64 Posts |
Posted - 21/04/2009 : 14:43:15
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Now one or two things have been sorted out I would like to take opportunity to thank the sponsors and organisers of this years FF&FT league and in particular Magnus who occupies the unenviable position of final arbiter as to who is placed where.
I was delighted to win the Open and even more so to beat my son Struan, however to have effectivly dropped some sixteen places from last years result was hardly an excuse to open the champagne!
As in all high dramas there is a twist in the final scene....... I can't make Norway partly because disc trouble sort-of precludes double handed rods, and partly because the dates cut across Struan and I heading north for a fortnight at Assynt and Durness.
At the moment I'm not clear who will benefit from the weeks fishing but whoever it is, TIGHT LINES and don't expect me to provide the spending money!
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ally
Starting Member
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Posted - 21/04/2009 : 16:02:02
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Thanks Magnus for a great fly tying league.
Ally
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Magnus
Administrator
529 Posts |
Posted - 21/04/2009 : 22:41:12
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Hi Guys
I appreciate the comments. I probably enjoy the League as much as you tyers.
In particular I took real pleasure in seeing Ron Flood win the Masters this year. Ron has been close for the past couple of seasons, finally this year his skill and determination are rewarded.
Okay - since there's nobody listening - I want some feedback and advice from you lot.
The first round this year, Yellow Dancer, got a reaction which really surprised me. Several regular League tyers seemed turned off by that fly to the extent that they decided not to enter.
At the other end of the cycle, the winged trout flies in the final round proved very challenging. Lots of movement on the spreadsheet, suggesting they took rather a lot of people out of their comfort zone.
First question: What types of flies do you expect or want from the League? Should they be the same for the Masters and Open? Should we base the Open around Textbook Tying again?
Next bit. Whether you know it or not, for the past few seasons you have had to qualify afresh for the Masters in the first round. I mark all the flies and the top scoring 20 or so are the Masters.
That system evolved because when we started the Masters we carried names over year to year so the numbers were always growing, the list was getting large and some excellent tyers were always outside the honours.
Second question: Should Masters be carried forwards year on year? The way I work now it would be much easier to administer, so we could carry the Masters group forwards. Maybe set a limit of 25, relegate three from the bottom of the table and promote the top three from the Open? (From an Admin POV that would make things easier - Masters would know in advance which competition they were in so I can set Masters fly from the first round - assuming we have different flies for the Masters and Open?)
I'm keen to hear what you think.
Hi Hubert
Yes there will be a write-up. Not in the next issue, it depends when Mark schedules it.
Final thing. Ben Dixon of Orvis Banchory is helping organize an open day on the River Don, he's made contact with the local events Officer for the Macmillan Fund and arranged that the first of the flies will be on sale at the Open Day.
http://www.riverdon.org.uk/welcome/donphotoalbum/donphotoalbumpage2/openday2009.asp
Cheers
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Martini Fisher
Junior Member
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Posted - 22/04/2009 : 03:44:01
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quote:
Originally posted by Magnus
Hi Guys
I appreciate the comments. I probably enjoy the League as much as you tyers.
In particular I took real pleasure in seeing Ron Flood win the Masters this year. Ron has been close for the past couple of seasons, finally this year his skill and determination are rewarded.
Okay - since there's nobody listening - I want some feedback and advice from you lot.
The first round this year, Yellow Dancer, got a reaction which really surprised me. Several regular League tyers seemed turned off by that fly to the extent that they decided not to enter.
At the other end of the cycle, the winged trout flies in the final round proved very challenging. Lots of movement on the spreadsheet, suggesting they took rather a lot of people out of their comfort zone.
First question: What types of flies do you expect or want from the League? Should they be the same for the Masters and Open? Should we base the Open around Textbook Tying again?
Next bit. Whether you know it or not, for the past few seasons you have had to qualify afresh for the Masters in the first round. I mark all the flies and the top scoring 20 or so are the Masters.
That system evolved because when we started the Masters we carried names over year to year so the numbers were always growing, the list was getting large and some excellent tyers were always outside the honours.
Second question: Should Masters be carried forwards year on year? The way I work now it would be much easier to administer, so we could carry the Masters group forwards. Maybe set a limit of 25, relegate three from the bottom of the table and promote the top three from the Open? (From an Admin POV that would make things easier - Masters would know in advance which competition they were in so I can set Masters fly from the first round - assuming we have different flies for the Masters and Open?)
I'm keen to hear what you think.
Hi Hubert
Yes there will be a write-up. Not in the next issue, it depends when Mark schedules it.
Final thing. Ben Dixon of Orvis Banchory is helping organize an open day on the River Don, he's made contact with the local events Officer for the Macmillan Fund and arranged that the first of the flies will be on sale at the Open Day.
http://www.riverdon.org.uk/welcome/donphotoalbum/donphotoalbumpage2/openday2009.asp
Cheers
Magnus
Morning Magnus,
With regards to the format for next year I think your idea on the Masters names staying and having the promotion/relegation system works best. Its fair to say that most would aspire to the masters but at the end of the day some of us are just not good enough. So keeping the "Premier League" as is and swapping the top three/bottom three works. The flies for the masters should be harder too. Stretch them as it were.
As for flies for the league in general I think this years selection was fine. There are tyers that fish and use all ( for argument sake) three types of fly as in lures, drys/ emergers and wets/nymphs. Taking that as a base the fly selection could include a pattern from each area and then throw in a round four fly of your choice to really test the talents in both divisions. Just like the split wing did in this years comp. I think some folks did not enjoy tying the Dancer but hey ho why be "elitist" about it. People use them and tie them very well. Just because the purists on the board didnt enjoy it doesnt mean others didnt either. There are tyers in the league that will never get in the prizes, me included, but we can live in hope.
The competition does more than test people. It also improves there tying ability as you may see by the movements in the placings.
Its a great comp and I hope it continues for a good while yet.
With support from the guys like Peter and his step by step the comp can only get better.
Thanks
KP
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huba1973
Junior Member
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Posted - 22/04/2009 : 09:39:50
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quote:
Originally posted by Magnus
Hi Guys
At the other end of the cycle, the winged trout flies in the final round proved very challenging. Lots of movement on the spreadsheet, suggesting they took rather a lot of people out of their comfort zone.
Magnus
So this is why quite few tyers went down the list and few went up,myself included.My first impression was that final round flies from those guys just have not made it to the office on time.I did not realise you can loose so much points on one round entry.
PS.Dont you prise IV round best entries,you named them only for roundsI-III?
Regards-Hubert |
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Fly tying league 2008/2009
