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jim.lucas
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 Posted - 16/01/2007 : 05:10:25
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Hi Magnus
It seems like dejarvue waiting for the results. There are a lot of us out here getting excited and awaiting our placings. This seems to be a common occurrence with this otherwise well organised competition.
The website has obviously been updated so someone needs to give Callum a size 12 where the sun doesn't shine.
It cannot be that difficult to cut and paste the results onto the website or even into the forum.
Sorry to moan but as this is my second year of entering this issue does not seem to improve.
Jim
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bigvern
Starting Member
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Posted - 16/01/2007 : 05:24:28
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Dave Sneath
Starting Member
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Posted - 16/01/2007 : 07:27:29
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Yes Indeed Jim/Bigvern - Where are the rest of the results ???
I personally think that all the results should be published in the magazine considering that is where the competition is publicised, but, if the placings of the 'also rans' are really that unimportant then surely they should be posted on the website as a matter of priority what about the people who don't have access to the web?
Let's hope we see something soon and the situation improves in subsequent rounds.
Cheers
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Magnus
Administrator
529 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2007 : 09:30:14
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Hi Guys
I sent a reminder to the office on Sunday night and spoke to them again today.
Magnus |
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Peter Kealey
Junior Member
66 Posts |
 Posted - 16/01/2007 : 10:14:41
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The joys of being a Judge!!!! Wouldn't swap it for the all the whisky in Scotland. Would you Magnus?
Yes its nice to see the full results listings but we have all missed the point.
Its all about selling more magazines!!! So I am told!!!
Its all about taking part and tying flies that we would not normally consider and if we all benefit from that we are all winners. There is not a competition within the UK which has been as well supported.
Lets keep it going!!
Regards Pete
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Magnus
Administrator
529 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2007 : 10:36:04
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Hi Pete
There are easier ways to fill pages and sell magazines.
Magnus
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Peter Kealey
Junior Member
66 Posts |
 Posted - 16/01/2007 : 13:02:29
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Hi Magnus
Point taken!! I could have mentioned all the whiskey in Ireland but that would just have been daft.The set patterns this year (now that they have been all been published!!!) were not complicated patterns as all materials were readily available. I would be interested to know how other competitors feel. Were the patterns too simple? Were they challenging? How did they feel about picking a pattern from the magazine and their interpretation of of it? All food for thought but necessary for the development of the competition.
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flyguy95
Starting Member
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Posted - 16/01/2007 : 17:37:20
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For me, being from the US, the point of the league is to force myself to tie patterns that I am unfamiliar with--so that I can continue to grow.
The flipside is that there is no avenue to see where you erred on a patterns. |
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Magnus
Administrator
529 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2007 : 19:25:13
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Loren
"there is no avenue to see where you erred on a patterns"
Don't think you erred - where others outshone?
Yeah - I'd love to find a way to offer more feedback - logistics and timing simply makes it impractical. Most of you guys are on Round 4 - I'm marking Round 2 - with a few stragglers from round 1 for added interest. I'm preparing those for inclusion in the March issue.
In the past we offered individual critiques - I sit down with a set of flies and give a written breakdown of what I see. Immensely time consuming - not that useful since tyers get the report long long after they tied and sent the flies.
We've considered something online - you post 'em - we crit 'em. If anyone wants to post links to high quality pics of their flies I'm happy to take part and critique what I can see. |
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flyguy95
Starting Member
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Posted - 16/01/2007 : 20:48:58
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Magnus,
Please do not take that comment as criticism or complaint, I was just stating the reality.
I entered to challenge myself. I knew going into it that there was a Catch-22 being that tyers would not get individual feedback about their patterns--so why we end where we do will be somewhat of a mystery. I like mysteries!
For instance, that was the first buzzer I've ever tied for any soul lacking fins! I could not reasonably expect to fare too well...but I had fun attempting and I learned much.
Anyway, I do appreciate the League and please accept my thanks for judging it! I'm still awaiting the January issue to show up here n the States...and you guys are discussing Round 4! |
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Magnus
Administrator
529 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2007 : 21:03:19
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Jim
Has this jumped thread?
We/I don't take it badly but we are aware that it can seem like we make it frustrating. We don't want to make it any more frustrating than it must be. Over time we try to deal with problems as they arise. If there's a better way I'd love to hear about it.
Ah - buzzers and US tyers :) now there's a topic. |
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tlfly
Starting Member
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Posted - 17/01/2007 : 01:33:09
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Magnus, I just received the latest issue of your magazine, with what appears to have only a short list of the 1st round placings. I cannot find the long list even on the FFFT web-site. I received a letter stating I qualified for the masters divison. I would like to know my placing if possible. Last year I was a runner-up in the Open Division, and I figured I might be moved up. I know my flies for the 1st round were very good, but I did not expect them to be bad enough to put me this far down in the masters standings.
Can you help? Thanks, Jerry Criss, La Pine, Oregon, USA
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plongpr
Starting Member
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Posted - 17/01/2007 : 01:58:35
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I'm with Peter Kealey on this - I'm tying flies for a competition for the very first time, although I've been tying flies for longer than I can fly fish (my dad discovered cheap labour long before offshoring to India/Kenia became popular), which is over 40 years. This means I'm forced to tie patterns that I would normally not have in my box, e.g. a Royal Wulff, which is a real tart of a dressing - too showy for my taste (but I'm not a trout). The Oliver Edwards virus hasn't bit me yet, so I don't spend hours on a single fly that will never get wet.
Another effect of competition tying is that I'm taking much more care to get proportions right and be neat. My fishing flies are deliberately 'scraggy' because I have more faith in such patterns. I would normally tie 3 or 4 flies of a particular size to fill any gaps in my boxes. For the competition, however, I knock off a dozen or so and choose 3 flies that are like 'peas in a pod'.
Lastly, I'm a foreign subscriber as well, so I need to wait a week longer than UK readers to see the reults and to start girding my loins for the next round.
The web site could go a long way to alleviating the frustration of waiting. It's the medium of choice for the new generation of 'bloggers', who typically update there web sites on a daily basis. Why can't FF & FT magazine embrace this new medium fully?
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jim.lucas
Starting Member
23 Posts |
Posted - 17/01/2007 : 04:02:06
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Magnus
I think so. I was only after the placings. I can appreciate the work involved in pointing out every individuals errors and do not expect this.
As someone mentioned earlier the results are the only way to see if your flies have arrived. I don't even expect to be in the top hundred but do like to see how I fair in each round and hope for improvement.
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Magnus
Administrator
529 Posts |
Posted - 17/01/2007 : 08:15:03
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John
"The web site could go a long way to alleviating the frustration of waiting. It's the medium of choice for the new generation of 'bloggers', who typically update there web sites on a daily basis. Why can't FF & FT magazine embrace this new medium fully?"
I'll talk to Mark again about this one.
Yes some Bloggers do update daily. First and foremost FF&FT is a print magazine. We use the web to supplement what we do in print not to replace it.
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starlmagwonder
Junior Member
70 Posts |
Posted - 17/01/2007 : 08:49:22
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Magnus.
I think this years flys are ok, the format of the competition is correct with a set pattern, and also one of choice from the Magazine, but the set patterns are patterns that I wouldnt really tie to fill my box, as John stated its the scruffy ones that catch the fish, Im with him on that one. I do particuly like the look of the Sun & Baby Sun flies though (round 4), will probably make a few of those for actual fishing, pick them out a little more maybe, I think they may do well on the rough streams of Cumbria, lancashire, yorkshire etc. The judging and all the organisation of the competition must be a nightmare, but agree with most that in todays times update of a website shouldnt in theory pose any real problems.
Keep up the good work though, its total enjoyment.
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Round 1 results
